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Re:Fancy a punt? - 2006/04/28 19:25You might like to think that I am connected to Packham developments or that I share their desire to be a hit and run operator.I have already made a clear statement that Angel Property is not connected to Packham developments in any way. I would also refer you to our website www.angelproperty.co.uk where you will see lots of projects completed, we could quite easily have sold a lot of them on with planning consent but preffered to see them through and actually build them to a high standard. I know what you are getting at and I believe we have already made it clear that we wish to see this project through and to ensure that the quality of architecture and design were adhered to. We have made it clear that we will be bringing in other development partners to the project as we consider it to be too big to be undertaken by our company in isolation. The planners are aware that this is our strategy and we will jointly work with them to ensure that the design code and the s106 agreement are sufficiently rigourous to ensure the quality of the development is assured, as are the community benefits.If you take the view that all developers are hit and run operators then nothing would ever be built. Even Prince Charles would be suspected as he might have run off with the loot after getting planning for Poundberry, or maybe he did. Have a good weekend.
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Re:Fancy a punt? - 2006/04/29 12:40so do parts ot the development get sold of to these 'other developers' with Angel keeping the best bits? Who does all the communal things, like roads, flood relief, and car-parking? How do you ensure that sold off bits are built to a high quality as promised?
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Re:Fancy a punt? - 2006/04/29 17:47RBB, what do you mean by best bits? As far as we are concerned there are no best or worst bits to this development. We have a vested interest and desire for it all to be excellent. Our intention is to form joint ventures with other developers. If any part of the site is sold by us it will be subject to a s106 agreement and a design code. These agreements are not particular to the to applicant. The obligation to provide the community benefits and design quality agreed in the planning consent pass with the land.The development will be phased and each phase will be tied to doing certain things including flood defense, road improvements, riverfront walk, footbridge, affordable housing etc. We are not looking for ways to avoid doing this as I feel you are suggesting. As I stated, the council are aware that there will be other development partners working on delivering the total masterplan and that this will be a phased development. All the legal documents and codes relating to the development are going to be drafted with this strategy in mind.
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Re:Fancy a punt? - 2006/04/29 17:55RBB, what do you mean by best bits? As far as we are concerned there are no best or worst bits to this development. We have a vested interest and desire for it all to be excellent. Our intention is to form joint ventures with other developers. If any part of the site is sold by us it will be subject to a s106 agreement and a design code. These agreements are not particular to the to applicant. The obligation to provide the community benefits and design quality agreed in the planning consent pass with the land.The development will be phased and each phase will be tied to doing certain things including flood defense, road improvements, riverfront walk, footbridge, affordable housing etc. We are not looking for ways to avoid doing this as I feel you are suggesting. As I stated, the council are aware that there will be other development partners working on delivering the total masterplan and that this will be a phased development. All the legal documents and codes relating to the development are going to be drafted with this strategy in mind.
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Re:Fancy a punt? - 2006/04/29 22:53how do you build part of a flood relief wall, or part of an integrated street layout? who is responsible for ensuring that a series of different developers all create buildings that match in a coherant way?
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Re:Fancy a punt? - 2006/04/30 10:02We are planning to construct the complete flood defense in Phase One, this will be necessary to protect that phase as a partially completed flood defense will not work. The construction of the road link to join Phoenix Place into Phoenix Causeway will be constructed in time to provide that link, in cooperation with East Sussex Traffic Engineers as it will have to be built to coincicde with the construction of the new junction they are planning to build on The Phoenix Causeway. The road at the rear of the Phoenix Quarter would be built when the phase of works that will be to build along beside the recreation ground and the Pells Pool is undertaken. Likewise the proposed works to realign the end of Brooks Street will be undertaken during the construction of the phase where the cinema is built. We will be agreeing the split between the phases, as to which phase is responsible for which works, with the planners. There will be consistency in the design of the Quarter, and the need for this and the means to achieve it will be set down in the design code. The outline planning application mainly deals with massing, building heights, uses and the public realm. It does not specifically include all elevational details, this is dealt with in the detailed planning applications. We are however considering including in the design code a pallete of materials which should be used by other architects. We feel there needs to be a balance between allowing other architects sufficient creative input into their final design and ensuring consistency in the overall scheme. The landscaping of public areas and street paving and street lighting and street furniture will all be designed by Anthony Paul Landscape Design to ensure a continuity of design throughout the quarter.
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