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Re:Phoenix Action - 2006/04/25 20:03 I agree that an actual built scheme, or the kind of scheme that has influenced and inspired Piers Gough would be very helpful. I find it hard to believe that this scheme was plucked out of thin air, with bell towers in Italy as it's only reference point. Some of the aspects of this scheme refer to Scottish 'closes' that would be found in Edinburgh or Glasgow, but these are both cities.
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Re:Phoenix Action - 2006/04/25 20:41 I will ask Piers Gough for any other influences or built schemes in this country or elsewhere in Europe that he used as influences for the design. We have never made any secret of the fact that this is a very unusual opportunity for a historic town of this nature to get a new quarter, however the fact that there are very few examples does not mean that it is not possible to integrate new architecture into an historic context and make it work. I beleive the Brewery Square Development is the best example in this country and for that reason it should be shown even though it has not yet been constructed.
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Re:Phoenix Action - 2006/04/25 20:46 I have this morning emailed all the details requested regarding the density of the residential uses and the dimensions of the tower elements of buildings to Marco. As a lot of what was sent is in the form of diagrammes and tables it is necessary for Marco to have the information put onto the website by the website developer and I am told this will be done tomorrow.
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Re:Phoenix Action - 2006/04/25 22:02 Thank you for that. I accept that you cannot find an example of a town which has benefited from from a new development such as yours but I was concerned at the Friends of Lewes meeting to hear that "if we do not move forward we will die". You yourself say that we cannot be "stuck in aspic"
Perhaps you could give us an example of a historic town which you consider has suffered as a result of failing to be developed?
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Re:Phoenix Action - 2006/04/25 22:27 As this is the only suggestion so far, does anyone know how big this yet to be built development that only has outline Planning Permission in Dorchester is likely to be?
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Re:Phoenix Action - 2006/04/25 22:53 There are many English villages, towns and even Cities preserved in aspic. Locally I am thinking of places like Amberley, Ditchling and Alfriston, and further afield Laycock and Bath. In each case the high house prices relative to adjacent indicate that "aspic like" strict conservation is exactly what people want. I concer with the sentiment that a planning freeze can be the most positive thing, but it si usually only possible when a village is surrounded by one or two major landowners comfortable enough to be averse to any development eg Firle, Balcombe and Goodwood.

The down side (as Holly Long articulates in her postings on this thread) is that locals are priced out of the market, and you end up full of second home owners or London commuters (the latter includes myself admittedly), which populus tend to keep to themselves and shop elsewhere leading to closures of convenience shops, and less participation in the community.

Lewes is a long way off suffering these problems, indeed many young families are coming into Lewes (if they can afford to) often where one parent has grown up. These people have a long term interest in the town, its schools, community and shops. They already have a bond with the Town or quickly develop one, and are its future.

Of course the Phoenix Quarter presents a threat and an opportunity to this, but its likely impact should be measured against such things. I would urge readers to consider that the expansion of Tesco is a pure threat giving nothind back to the Town other than minimum wage dead ends jobs which no one really wants to be in. This thread has over 100 postings but the one concerning Tesco a handful. I am concerned that while so much energy is being directed at the Phoenix Quarter, the Tesco's proposal may sneak in with little vociforous opposition.
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