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Re:Car Free Development - 2006/05/04 09:17 Adrienne, without a traffic assessment it is impossible for you to say with any accuracy what effects the development will have on traffic in lewes. It most certainly will not have a dramatic effect on the traffic in the Pells area as you are suggesting. the density will be appropriate and we will consider all measures to make this an excellent example of sustainable design. The use of the motor car will be in line with guidance we receive from the traffic engineers and will be improved by car clubs and bicycle parking provisions. That is not Gloss, that is real, we are looking into your concerns and considering what you say.
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Re:Car Free Development - 2006/05/04 10:16 I think we have to be realistic here. More cars in Lewes is not going to work. Looking out of my office in Station Street as I write this I see a more or less constant stream of cars- and its lunchtime. During the rush hour we are usually a small number of cars away from gridlock. As things stand car use is likely to expand over by about 20% over the next decade. Either you start building a whole load of new roads in the town- which is impractical- or you have to suggest another solution. There is nopoint in having a development with cars if you can't get into or out of the town.
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Re:Car Free Development - 2006/05/04 12:02 Dear Mr Style, you say that Adrienne doesn't know if 800 new housing units, shops, a cinema and a performance space units will encourage extra car use, as opposed to a run down partially empty industrial site which has low traffic generation and doesn't operate at the weekend. How do you know your proposal won't produce loads of extra traffic in the Pells area or any other area of the town, have you done a survey? If so can we be shown the results, as this would be very reassuring.
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Re:Car Free Development - 2006/05/04 13:15 Dear Mr.Style,
I should be much more likely to take your comments about traffic in Lewes seriously if you weren't so keen on continually harking on about East Sussex County Council's Highways Department. Its lack of concern about the PRESENT degradation of the urban environment should make you wary of using them to back up your position - those of us who have tried to engage with the HD over many years have developed a total contempt for the the lack of vision, capacity to plan anything that might limit the growth in car use and a healthy disregard for the promises that are always being offered up that don't materialise. It's no good saying that you would 'encourage' more responsible attitudes - this weasel word is a favourite of the HD and has never made a scrap of difference. If you had sat in on the Public Inquiry into the Southerham-Beddingham stretch of the A27, you could not possibly think that the building of a bridge over the railway would have anything but a marginal, and temporary, effect on traffic in Lewes, if that. The Inspector's report is not yet in the public domain, and in any case it is self-evident that any increase in road capacity or so-called 'improvements' only make things worse.
We live in a town that should be urban heaven, and could be if the powers-that-be had courage, imagination and an ambition to serve the whole community instead of favouring a vociferous section of it intent on placing private concerns above the public good - you will be seen to be another such if you don't grasp the point that your plans will be bitterly opposed if you don't deal more intelligently with the place of the private car/van/lorry in the town.
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Re:Car Free Development - 2006/05/08 14:11 Talk about right on the button. ESCC Highways are a resource stretched department who can't even reply to letters within months of recieving them. It is obvious from the lack of response for information about TRICS figures and surveys of traffic in the Pells, that none of this important work has been done yet, if it ever will. It is very surprising as we were told that this application was at the brink of being submitted. It is clear that nobody yet knows what they are talking about, apart from residents of the Pells, and the other surrounding areas , because they can already see 24hrs a day what the traffic generation and parking situation that already exists is. It is not a pretty picture. If you simply built a cinema in this area it would cause havoc in Zone B as there is already a shortfall in parking spaces, and no-where to park in the evenings. I find it hard to believe we are even discussing the possibility of all these housing units without this work being done first. We are looking at a development which has been designed first to maximise profit, and is being shoe-horned into an area with all the calculations that should have informed its design being calculated afterwards. This stinks.
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Re:Car Free Development - 2006/05/08 17:07 I couldn't agree more with thes comments about the attitude of the local councils in all this. Just listening to councillors speak it is obvious that they are thoroughly complacent about their duty to the existing and future residents of Lewes. if it is not laid out in some government guideline, then they are not prepared to stick their heads above the parapet and ofer any kind of real vision for the future of our town. Dea's wonderful piece of research has shown quite clearly that it is both possible to plan for car free developments and for them to be a financial success for developers because people are so keen to live in them. We don't need any studies by the County Council to tell us that 800 new homes with attached cars would place an intolerable strain on the narrow streets of our ancient town - anyone with any common sense can see that. So, people of Lewes, it is up to us to put forward our vision statement on sustainability, to not be intimidated by the views of developers or councillors and to insist that we want a car-free development here. Car clubs yes, car parking spaces for individual residents no. With local elections here next year, lets ask our district councillors if they have a vision for the Phoenix area.
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